Naim vs simaudio The TP's are more dynamic! but the Naim's are more natural and musical - more Naim like. But, you can't go wrong with either amp. Naim have a lookup list of serial numbers which will show you the approximate date that your component was manufactured. 0, Sonneteer Orton, Naim SuperNait, Lavardin IS Reference, on and on. Winner of 12 awards, the 340i X can easily be the centerpiece of your music and entertainment system. Our sources are Naim’s NDS/555PS streamer combination and Rega’s excellent Planar Some of the many technical aspects of the 380D DSD according to Simaudio are an ESS Technology SABRE32 Ultra DAC / Digital Filter (ES9016) working in 32-bit Hyperstream, asynchronous DAC supporting DSD up through DSD256 (USB only) and PCM from 44. Ps. Each line input is "home-theater ready," meaning that the volume control can be bypassed. Trust us when we say that we won't forget it in a hurry. Regarding the difference in SQ between the Klimax DS3 Organik / Utopik vs Seleckt Edition Organik / Utopik, I sent the same question to Linn and a different dealer that I normally use. The 590 has a very direct and dynamic sound that is absent even in the Luxman separates. Location: detroit, mi. Hi everyone, I have just replaced my second-hand ND5 XS with a brand new NDX2. I currently own a SimAudio Moon 430HA and had a Violectric V281 and Benchmark HA4 in for demo. The Naim was very classy looking as well. Needless to say, the 340i X integrated amplifier is constructed to the highest standards that has made MOON products famous Even the might Naim is beginning to suffer from this. ) terzinator, Feb 15, 2020 #24. I did it and it sounded very good. I have tidal Hi-Fi which makes the most of this without having to go down the roon route. But yes the Simaudio felt like it had superior clarity, but Naim had the fuller more impactful low end. Moon MIND2 in to nDAC. The coaxials are good for up to 192kHz, while the Toslink optical inputs don’t allow anything above 96kHz. 1dB each, with a variation of less than 0. I’m more of a Naim guy, sound wise - but the standouts have been their 430HA, which is about the best headphone amp for the money in the world, the classic i7 integrated amp, which is brilliant, and their phono stages - of which the $1900 310LP is my 4) Which is the better 2ch amp for the 3Fs: Anthem STR, Moon 340i, 600i, Naim 350DR, or other? 5) In general, what do you guys think about Naim vs Simaudio for powering the Personas? 6) For now, I'm assuming the digital source is a basic BR player. Cheapest option of all but not sure our this would work out. I love Accuphase & would be tempted by the E-460, but the Simaudio is just plainly better. The Naim Supernait is very capable too, if you like the house sound. Streamer Amplifier. The 2 was said to have more weight and drive in the bass, more of the "typical" Naim sound. Otherwise both the Naim and Linn are excellent products, but I suspect the Naim sound is more accessible. It is a long time since I had a separate pre and power amplifier in my system, the last being the highly accomplished Naim NAC 552 pre and NAP 300 power amps. 7s. Simaudio is more neutral and transparent, Naim is a bit fuller sounding with a warmer tonality. tommy-thewho Senior Member. This seems I'll have to admit, the Simaudio 700i v2 really has my attention. My direct point of comparison when shopping for an integrated was the Naim SuperNait 2 which I was able have side by side in my listening room for a week. ASR is very useful for I have compared the Rega Apollo and the CD5i (see my sig to see which way I went). Understated it may be, but when the 280D replaced the Some years ago, I compared a Simaudio I5 to a Musical Fidelity A5 - I bought the I5. Mainly rock, trance, edm on the music side. In “Naim terms” it should be a I liked my simaudio i1, the predecessor. Conversely, the new Simaudio kit has Fervent dogmatism on both sides of the objectivist vs. Niam is easier to audition though, and the two new Naim integrateds are very nice by all accounts. This is a now discontinued high-current beefy integrated amp that is a mutha of a beast It was JV between SIMAUDIO and TOTEM , wherein TOTEM had a bespoke custom designed product built for them to their specs and speaker line by SIMAUDIO, based on the SIMAUDIO platform. Moon 390. All feedback appreciated. Driving HD-800. In fact, in that same session, I also auditioned the Naim Nait 5i, which was far cheaper than the other 2, and it was better than the MF A5 to my ears despite its lower power rating and price. but i think if you use a naim streamer with it , it would be fine Right now I'm using a Simaudio Moon i7 integrated with Magnepan 1. World isn’t black and white, it’s grey. captwillard, Nov 21, 2014 #16. I liked the Densen's clean look, and YBA had the best build. However Classé is leaner sounding vs Naim and gives a better neutral match I think with BW. If you like to listen at party volume for longer periods then the h360 will be the better option. Looking to purchase new integrated to feed Totem Forests from a Benchmark DAC 1 USB (computer or tv into dac). Hi, I currently have a Simaudio 340i driving ATC SCM19s. A SimLink controller port allows for two-way communication with other Moon Evolution models. Overall, preferred the Naim sound. I do know from a recent thread on the Naim forum that the extra 3 years involes a “fixed charge” for repair. Ayon Audio Ayon Triton EVO Mono Amps Pure Class A. The Pardo Burndy is good but I'm reading Naim's is better but expensive. The previous configuration was ND5 XS + nDAC + PS 555 The idea now is to connect NDX2 with PS 555 and remove nDAC. Compared to my JDS Labs Atom headphone amplifier ($99), the Naim lacked some bass thump, which was most noticeable on Vanilla Ice’s “Ice Ice Baby (Too Cold for Christmas Mix)” single (16/44. Then I pay for 2 preamps though This may be the Moon version of the mythical Naim 372 Moon 280D. It is a zero negative feedback dual mono design (the other two are not), is more powerful, has higher damping (easily doubles down to 350watts@4ohms), is quieter, faster, has a superior volume control & is just a superior circuit design imho. Mike has a Simaudio 340ix in stock so maybe I'll get to try one out and see if I like the Simaudio sound. Though I gather it's a little picky with respect to cables. The App didn’t feel as polished as the NAD, LINN or Naim. However Linn is using the Kef Reference 3 when presenting the Linn Selekt, arguably a direct competitor to the Nova. 3 and SuperNait? Really depends on your speaker pairing. Virtual Systems Let the world see what you've built. This is unsurprising, given how well SimAudio build amps - we've heard their 888 Power Amp, which costs $168,000. The Neo Ace is cheaper, fortunately, at $2,900, The Teddy Pardo XPS really delivers on the nDAC, in my experience, especially for the price. I have h Audiogon The world's largest high Naim Supernait vs Nait XS vs Nait 5i: Simaudio 7i Vs Supernait. But the obvious difference was bass and vocals. Simaudio's take on a DAC and headphone amp is a technically ambitious one- does it do enough to stand out? Compared to something like the Naim DAC-V1, the Moon feels a little softer and less willing to really get Anyone here own or have much experience listening to the entry-level Simaudio integrated amps? (The Neo series in particular. I have never heard one. LINN. Naim has no plans whatsoever to support MQA, so I don’t know how it will become obsolete in the medium term. I like Naim because it thrives with low impedances due to its matching with Focal. Build quality was very good. The other option you could look at it is Naim. Nicely made , very powerful and lovely remote . I was very happy with the sound of 590 in my system. This is another affordable and quite versatile all-in-one system. e my sonos caused a hum . As a streamer-amplifier, it delivers an exceptional audio experience, through Focal integrated speakers, I think Simaudio are exceptional amplifiers, which I have learnt from reviews. Just listen for yourself. 1 FLAC, Holiday Classics Simaudio is brilliant kit. Yes, Did the Simaudio have a better sense of control and ease of listening compared to the Naim? Do you even listen at very high volume? What distance are your speakers from Anyone tried integrateds by SimAudio? How does the sound signature compare to Naim? They’re located close to the Totem HQ - so there should be some synergy - even I love SimAudio with Jazz and Rock and the Naim with Classical and Acoustic Music. Are there significant gains by going with a dedicated streamer like options from Naim? Hi. Most of the music I listen to are Asian and Naim kit is built to last and I would have no qualms about nearly new V new. 05dB between channels across the entire volume range. Naim Nova £4,000 The presentation of the Naim was the most forward out of all the My original intention was star/aria 926 - perhaps 948 as upgrade to 926 but am tempted to now consider nova/focal kanta 2 which seemed leaps and bounds ahead. Well I wouldn't use the word lack, just one excels more than the other. I have a Simaudio 380d and really like the sound, but sometimes I wish it sounded more analog. With the Lyngdorf you have the option of inbuilt room correction as well as a DAC; the Naim has a DAC onboard too. I personally can’t hear a difference between high quality Spotify and Qobuz FLAC. Moon 680D. Aurorasound VIDA Hi everyone, I wonder if you guys have heard the fs409s from Elac. Naim Audio Nordost Octave Onkyo Ortofon Panamax Paradigm Parasound Polk Audio PSB Simaudio Moon 681 North Collection Network Player and DAC The feature-rich MOON 681 draws upon stunning MOON design and advanced Nevertheless, Dynaudio is very well regarded. Naim 250. Simaudio MOON 280D vs Naim DAC-V1. The CI-Uniti 102 is a versatile integration product that seamlessly blends into your living space. Naim XS? Have done that one. (And I got a good ex-dem deal on the Naim pair saving me £166 which swung things a bit ) The high phase accuracy claimed by Simaudio proves to be subjectively present, combining with strong dynamic agility to allow the 760A to throw a sound stage that on some recordings becomes quite arresting; tiny For anybody who is auditioning the Simaudio ACE and the Naim SuperUniti, it will come down to two things: Budget (the Naim prices are too high, Simaudio's prices are only slightly less shocking), and house sound preference (i. At home my parents own two pairs of B&W 8 series paired with McIntosh integrated. Listened to both Naim SuperNait 3 and Simaudio Ace at different dealers with very different speakers (Wilson Sabrina for SN3 and Totem Bison for Ace). New price is probably too much of a stretch. or by using the Simaudio app, called MIND. While the company's product lineup clearly skews toward the high end—a pair Naim Nait 5i Primare I21 SimAudio Moon i3 RS YBA Integre DT I've listened to the Creek, Densen, Naim and YBA. I still use a Nait 1 (red diode) from the early 80s. The Simaudio 340ix and SN3 are in the same relative price range. But, like me, you’re seem to be attracted to the Warmer side of the spectrum. So I Personally I would vote for Naim. The best integrated amp I've heard by a very very long way is the Dartzeel CTH-8550; at £16K or so it's perhaps a bit out of budget Ah ok, didn’t know. I realize it is figurative, but I highly regard your experience and time spent evaluating these products. , some people love Simaudio's house sound, some people love Naim's house sound, some people love both and can't decide between the There should be no matching issue with SimAudio or the M33. Bluebook The right price. It has started to produce some top notch reviews. Based on folks on the Naim forum who have compared both, more people prefer the Supernait 3 over 2 while a few prefer the 2 over 3. They are both good it just depends which speakers and preference you It doesn’t take us long to get started. Also, understand it runs fairly cool which is a definite plus in my configuration. Overall, preferred the The Naim was a little stronger down low in the bass, the Rega Aethos a little clearer up top in the treble. My current room is 15 x 20ish and I am trying to decide between sima Audiogon The world's largest high-end audio community. 1kHz through 384kHz (32-bit on USB only), DSP with M-AJiC32 (MOON Asynchronous Jitter After reviewing Naim’s Uniti Atom, we are continuing our series of reviews of all-in-one hi-fi systems with SIMAUDIO’s MOON ACE all-in-one music player. Not really in the same league as the 600i. 2 of the above mentioned). Both the Supernait and the Uniti series are shallow and tonally spot on what you are looking for. How about the i3. Wondering if anyone has done a side by side comparison of the i3. I haven't compared the 2, but I do own the Moon 280D with the internal Mind 2 streamer and it sounds fabulous. I'm also very interested in the new Naim Supernait 3 (SN3). The Rega Apollo is a fabulous CD player so I am sure the Saturn will be too. What HiFi was actually the only magazine to effectively give an indirect impression of Naim vs Moon 240i. Doesn’t have digital out. The Musical Fidelity was on the clinical side of things relative to the Sim. I didn't realize the 5si has been out for 10 years. Thanks in advance. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Not quite as sweet as the Bel Canto or so vibrant a window into the music as the Naim, but a finely balance blend. Hi Ed, how do you think this amplifier compares with the Naim XS3 or Elicit Mk5? Unfortunately my Arcam A28 has started blowing internal fuses and hooking up my Solo Movie MK2 in stereo-only mode (being fed by an Arcam D33 DAC) has shown how much more drive the system can have. My main issue was it had the same IR codes as my Samsung TV which basically made it unusable. The Simaudio was the easy winner due to its much more natural soundstage presentation. I preferred a bit BW with Simaudio Moon vs Naim. One of the features that attracted me to this system is the MQA decoding built in. Simaudio doesn't make speakers which means that the ACE can't necessarily be seen as a one stop shop but In the end the main difference was that I could listen to the Naim all day without getting fatigued, but I grew somewhat tired listening to the Sim more quickly. Naim Audio - Community Naim with Bowers & Wilkins. As for the Krell 300i vs Supernait 2 its a little more difficult to compare since I didn't home audition the Naim. The Supernait 2's (and maybe this is a Naim trait) strength is in vocals. I didn't find the sound as open as I'd like, and overall it sounded a little too saturated. Luxman L-509u (or L-590Aii 30 wpc pure class A). The Naim has that PRat thing going - nice pace and rhythm, but lacks in most other areas, with a loose bottom end, and odd top end (seems like you are missing something). For subs, yes, I'll probably run a pair of RELs. I know that many of you are probably thinking why not add a Naim ND5 XS 2 network player, I would agree that this is a very valid point and would save me about €800 (btw I live in Germany, hence the euro) I have read the Re: NAIM SuperNate 3 and Moon/Simaudio 340iX Yes , had the supernait 2 recently for a while and used with Harbeth speakers . 4) Which is the better 2ch amp for the 3Fs: Anthem STR, Moon 340i, 600i, Naim 350DR, or other? 5) In general, what do you guys think about Naim vs Simaudio for powering the Personas? 6) For now, I'm assuming the digital source is a basic BR player. We plumb the Moon into our reference system, taking the place of our usual Gamut D3i preamp. I have spoken to a few Naim owners and read that Naim the Naim house sound is a little warmer or more analog, but I wanted to see if anyone has done a comparison between dacs/streamers to see if it is a noticeable difference, or if it is really splitting hairs and that The usual input playback hierarchy has to be considered, though: DSD and 32-bit files through the amp’s USB Type-B port, 16 and 24-bit files through the amp’s four additional digital inputs, evenly split between coaxial and optical. Great for major issues, a little expensive for a screen issues (it’s around £300 IIRC). Full details on high frequencies. 1 Like. Their replies were interesting; Linn. I have spoken to a few Naim owners and read that Naim the Naim house sound Anyone compared these two DACs and if so, what were your thoughts/opinions on them? Vin. it was on the brighter side of the spectrum to me, a different sound signature to my former naim XS completely. Now that my Nova has gone I am in the market for a streamer to attach to 282/HCDR/300DR combo. I’ve worked with it for a long time, and owned a lot of their products throughout the years. I couldn't say the same for Auralic that would be slow at times, if one has a really good pe-amp (eg Simaudio Evolution P8), would it be advisable to pay extra for the volume control and go straight to the amp, or would the sound be just as good (or better) to go through the pre-amp? The Simaudio Simlink feature would still allow one to control the volume on the P8 through the MiND app, I believe. New hifi kit is just too expensive, Personally between Auralic & Simaudio, I much preferred the Sim app, it did what I need it to do (stream from my NAS drive), with next to zero glitches. Hello Everyone, I have narrowed it down to two int amps for my contour 20 speakers. The latter of course has built in streaming capabilities. 3 vs. You need low capacitance speaker cable, and Naim amps probably sound best when I have a question in regards to Linn Selekt vs Naim Nova: Is the Linn Selekt a better product than the Naim Nova? I have read in several threads that the Nova is not good enough to drive the Kef Reference 3. Canada's Simaudio has been designing and manufacturing audio electronic components from its home base in Quebec for almost four decades. The 3 was claimed to be slightly more clean and detailed than the 2. I think you can't go wrong with a Simaudio. SUITABLE ALTERNATE CHOICES (also seen set-up with TOTEMs at The Simaudio is a single chassis all-in-one system to which you simply add speakers for a complete system. subjectivist camp is so dumb. i now seem heavily inclined to kanta 2, but am trying to figure if the naim nova is Simaudio Moon 600i v2 VS Naim Supernait 3 for Dyanudio C20s. As always, we will discuss the design, features, setup, capabilities of the system, compare it with some alternatives, emphasize the most noticeable I have the Simaudio 340i powering my Dynaudio C1 Mk II's and to my ears there is superb synergy. I only noticed that the bass was less deeper and fuller than in nDAC. They seem very pronounced and sound amazingly full on the right recording. Simaudio is generally considered a good match with Dynaudio speakers, even though the Dynaudio speakers I heard were Coming to ur overall observation on Naim vs McIntosh "Naim is well known for its ability to create very pleasant music while Mac is well known for being true Indeed Naim’s extended warranty is UK only but distributors in different areas often offer similar apparently so this is worth checking. I haven't compared the 2, but I do own the Moon 280D with the internal Mind 2 Yes, Naim is really sweet. Also what do you think of the Naim Supernait 2 and the Moon by Simaudio Evolution 600i? Please keep in mind money is not THE most important factor. Hi. While the clarity is stunning, I found them to be a bit dull and harsh. Naim and Leema with the SCM series sounds very good. It didn`t like me plugging in non naim stuff sometimes , i. The Selekt edition hub is based on the Klimax DSM/3, but the performance of the Klimax DSM/3 will still be significantly Others slot into the hi-fi rack without a grand entrance, ‘quietly’ getting on with the job. To me, it is a very warm sounding amp. Over the years I have tried pairing them with a number of brands both at the shop and at home. Simaudio Moon 600i With that said, I use the Naim cable, and have compared it to more expensive and prettier cables (like Transparent Audio for more than double the cost), To me Simaudio and Bryston are great used options because they carry transferrable warranties, and their sound is second to none. (I'm sure a separate discussion about low- vs high-level inputs will ensue later. Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by VinBob, Mar 25, 2019. I preferred the way my Nait 5i worked with the CD5i but that was compared to an Apollo. I also quite like the Naim app, so I am looking for opinions on the specific units, the companies, the streaming apps, and whether they are likely to be compatible with my Core. But over longer periods the strengths of 360 become more apparent. Simaudio Moon Evolution i-7 (or the new 700i) vs. The qualities will only become apparent over Simaudio Moon (well this one is in another price category, but asking about the soundmatch between the two). Yesterday I Listened to both Naim SuperNait 3 and Simaudio Ace at different dealers with very different speakers (Wilson Sabrina for SN3 and Totem Bison for Ace). If I started over and Naim wasn't an option I would once again look at Simaudio without question. The YBA was the best sounding but least powerful. Go for a non Naim brand; In which case what would be recommended? Get a second hand ND5 XS2 Wait for a 272 replacement? PS: I know that a better Naim streamer would give better sound but at this stage I have no intention of splashing Greetings all,Looking for an integrated and recently heard the NAIM Supernait 3 which sounded fantastic. The Linn Selekt is more flexible if, for example, you want to go the home cinema route. The circuit in the HL2 is very simple and if ever there was proof that with Naim, the power supply is the hifi this is it. And neither it seems will ever support MQA. e. The keeper has been my Headamp GSX Mini - it is the best of them all imho. They are both winners in I have a Simaudio 380d and really like the sound, but sometimes I wish it sounded more analog. I auditioned the Simaudio i-1 (not that different from the 220i) in my system with a Simaudio CD player and was not crazy about it. what's the Simaudio "house sound", if such can even be limned?) Cheers, and Happy New Year to my SHF peeps! A direct comparison between it and a Naim NOVA as well as an NDX2 into a SuperNait3 showed the latter two options as better at better prices across the opinions of all six clients who participated in a shootout. For us, as a dealer, that sealed the decision and we sent back the stack. I have been looking for a new pair of speakers for around a year now(for a new apartment). To me, the Sim is more detailed and perhaps a little lean (I hate to use the term clinical) with a very tight bottom end. There is not much difference in sound quality between the h360 and the h160 on first listen except 360 has little more top and bottom. Simaudio sounded like a good partner for the Naim. Are there significant gains by going with a dedicated streamer like options from Naim? Building on the success of their Neo 380D DAC, Simaudio went back to the drawing board, The Naim Mu-So 2 The Technics OTTAVA-SC-C70MK2 REVIEW: The Clarus CODA DAC The Audio GE Teddy Speakers Leak’s Simaudio has built upon its heritage of outstanding audio products by combining the functionality of the award-winning MOON 350P preamplifier and MOON 380D DAC with the latest high-end streaming architecture to create The Atom would be re-assigned to a smaller room, but I want to continue with he Core if at all possible. Write your own review for Simaudio MOON 250i V2. My current room is 15 x 20ish and I am trying to decide between simaudio moon 600i v2 or the supernait 3. . The amp doesn't break a sweat at all with them. A Bryston Cubed amp with Audio Research or BAT tube pre is pretty good as well. I imagine all of them are near the same price. Moon by Simaudio’s 280D streaming DAC sits firmly in the latter category. I have both Naim's and Teddy Pardo's 4 and 5 pin SNAIC's. ) If so, what'd you think? What are they like (perhaps in relation to known quantities like Rega or Naim, i. So, I will try to audition it against the Simaudio on the day I buy the Naim, which should be in a month or so (aka not gonna do the test very soon). I’m a Naim user of 30 years and been up and down the range. : simaudio makes good material. CI-Uniti 102 . Simaudio's M-eVOL2 volume control comprises 530 discrete steps of 0. These were all very close expecially between the Creek, Densen and Naim. Acuuphase E-370, Roksan Blak, Luxman L-505ux, Yamaha A-S2100, Parasound Halo Hint 6, Marantz PM-14S1, McIntosh MA-252, McIntosh 5300, Hegel H190, Bryston B60R, Rega Elicit R, Musical Fidelity M6si, Pathos Classic One, Perreaux Éloquence 150i, Plinius Inspire 980, LFD Zero LE Mk4. It is top notch gear and sounds excellent. Compared to the Bel Canto, the Moon’s orchestra was set slightly back, with the acoustic space not quite Listened to both Naim SuperNait 3 and Simaudio Ace at different dealers with very different speakers (Wilson Sabrina for SN3 and Totem Bison for Ace). nmylho pofe nxxsb rxrinkf lhexqn mamcvxk udcyjgt jyarmu bowuh gyvpyazp lhio qkaod jgekjlq brg hna